Tucker Carlson is a Great American!  Allows Robert Kennedy, Jr. to Discuss Pharma Corruption and Vaccines!…

By Kent Heckenlively, JD

Before I get into an analysis of a MONUMENTAL moment in the fight for vaccine truth…

I want to simply provide a transcript of the discussion between Tucker Carlson and Robert Kennedy, Jr. which aired on Tucker Carlson Tonight on April 20, 2017.

Tucker teased the story before a commercial break, saying:

“Up next, President Trump is suggesting he wants to investigate the safety of vaccines and if he does he has an ally in a member of the Kennedy family.  We sat down with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to talk about his meeting with the President about vaccines.  It’s an interesting conversation.  Stay tuned.”

The screen then went to a commercial break. 

The first commercial was about Chantix, a medication designed to help people quit smoking.  It was a beautiful commercial in which “Thomas” was able to quit smoking and become a better dad to his son.

However, the warnings just after those wonderful domestic scenes painted a different picture:

“Some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping Chantix.  Some reported seizures or sleep-walking with Chantix.  If you have any of these, stop Chantix and call your doctor right away.  Tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse, or of seizures.  Don’t take Chantix if you’ve had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it.  If you have these, stop Chantix and call your doctor right away, as some could be life-threatening.  Tell your doctor if you have heart or blood vessel problems or develop new or worse symptoms.  Get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke.  Decrease alcohol use while taking Chantix.  Use caution driving or operating machinery.  The most common side effect of Chantix is nausea.”

When the show returned, this is what they said:

TUCKER CARLSON:  Well, the vast majority of medical experts insist that vaccines are ‘generally safe’, that there is no link between vaccines and autism.  And that is widely accepted, but not universally.  President Trump has expressed interest in investigating the matter further, vaccine safety.  If he does, he has at least one supporter from a prominent democratic family.  Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. met earlier this year with the President to discuss the possibility of forming a commission to investigate the safety of vaccines.  We spoke to him about that topic recently.  Watch.

The interview had been recorded the previous day and showed the two men sitting together.

TUCKER CARLSON:  This is such a taboo subject that I think a lot of people would hesitate to even bring it up.  But I’ve read a lot that you’ve written on it.  I don’t agree with all of it, but I don’t think you’re crazy.  You’re not anti-vaccine.  You say you vaccinate your own children.  But you have concerns.  Tell me first, what the reaction is when you tell people you’re skeptical of the vaccine regimen in the United States.

ROBERT KENNEDY, JR.:  Well, like you said, I’m pro-vaccine.  And I’ve never said anything anti-vaccine.  But I read the science and the science is very clear that some vaccines – you have to understand that the vaccine regime changed very dramatically around 1989.  The reason it changed Tucker, is that Congress, drowning in pharmaceutical industry money, did something they’ve never done for any other industry.  They gave blanket legal immunity to all the vaccine companies.  So that no matter how sloppy the line protocol, or how absent the quality control, no matter how toxic the ingredients, or how egregious the injury of your child, you cannot sue them.

So there’s no depositions, there’s no discovery, there’s no class actions.  All of a sudden, vaccines became enormously profitable.

 TUCKER CARLSON:  From that point when the law passed in eighty-nine?

ROBERT KENNEDY, JR:  Eighty-seven was when it was implemented and then it was a gold rush for the pharmaceutical industry to add new vaccines to the schedule.  I got three vaccines and I was fully compliant and I’m sixty-three years old.  My children had sixty-nine doses of sixteen vaccines to be compliant.  And a lot of these vaccines aren’t even for casually communicable diseases.  Like hepatitis B which comes from unprotected sex or sharing needles.  Why do we give that to a child on the first day of their life, when it’s loaded with mercury?

TUCKER CARLSON:  And do give that to children?

ROBERT KENNEDY, JR.: We continue to give it to them.  The mercury has been taken out of three vaccines, in this country, but it remains in the flu vaccine, forty-eight million flu vaccines.  And it’s in vaccines all over the world.  And it is the most potent neuro-toxin known to man, that is not radioactive.  How can we inject that into a child?

If you take that vaccine vial and break it, you have to dispose of that as hazardous waste.  You have to evacuate the building.  Why would we take that substance and inject that into a child?

TUCKER CARLSON:  So the argument, as you know, is that group immunity, herd immunity, is what you’re searching for.  And yes, there are downsides.

ROBERT KENNEDY, JR.:  When they talk about herd immunity they’re talking about casually contagious diseases like measles.  Last month, a group of very prestigious scientists, with a robust study of African children, studied the DPT vaccine, diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus vaccine, which is the most widely distributed vaccine in the world.  Virtually every kid in Africa gets it.  But they did a vaccinated versus unvaccinated study, which has never been done.  And what they found is that the kids who got the vaccine, the little babies, were ten times more likely to die in the next two months as the kids who did not.

And what they concluded was that, and this study was funded by the Danish government, and these people are bullet-proof scientists, they said that the vaccine is killing more people than diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus combined.  So we need to do those cost-benefit analyses on every vaccine.

TUCKER CARLSON:  Final question, why has the point that you’re making, that doesn’t seem crazy, been so discredited?  Could it be because the spokesmen for that point of view tend to be actresses or actors from Hollywood who don’t seem to know much about the topic and are against all vaccinations?

ROBERT KENNEDY, JR.:  I think that cohort is out there, but it’s very, very small.  I’m called anti-vax all the time because the pharmaceutical industry is so powerful, both with the media, they give $5.4 billion dollars a year to media.  And they’ve gotten rid of the lawyers do there’s no legal interest in those cases.  And they have really been able to control the debate and silence people like me.  And I’m very grateful to you for having the courage to allow me on this show and let me talk about this.

This is the second show in ten years, that’s allowed me to talk about this, the other one being Bill Maher, which doesn’t take advertising.

TUCKER CARLSON:  I just think it’s interesting.  And above all, I think you ought to be allowed to ask legitimate questions, without being attacked.  Because I think that’s the basis of democracy.

ROBERT KENNEDY, JR.:  We ought to be having a responsible debate and a debate doesn’t scare me.  But a debate that’s real and is based on science.

TUCKER CARLSON:  Well, I hope you start one.  Thank you.

ROBERT KENNEDY, Jr.:  Thank you very much for having me.

In ten years, Robert Kennedy, Jr. has only been on two shows to discuss this issue. 

The forces which oppose this debate being conducted by people of goodwill on both sides is overwhelming.  I recall hearing Robert Kennedy, Jr. speak recently and he talked about how people on the left typically fear the power of corporations and people on the right typically fear the power of the government.

Kennedy said we are looking at a new creation in America, a government controlled by corporations.  The term for it is known as “regulatory capture” when the people who work in government regulating an industry, know that they can get an even better job working privately for that industry.  One hand washes another.  We have seen it in many industries.  In World War II, that is exactly how Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were run.  Hitler and Mussolini co-opted the big capitalists.  This time it is the reverse.

The pharmaceutical companies have more than fifteen hundred lobbyists in Washington, D.C., or three lobbyists for EVERY member of Congress.  They spend TWICE as much money lobbying Congress as the oil and gas industry.  And they have COMPLETE IMMUNITY FOR HARM CAUSED BY THEIR PRODUCTS.

Tucker Carlson took a very brave stand. 

I don’t think he realizes the size of the storm that is bearing down on him.  PLEASE.  PLEASE.  PLEASE.  Give him some cover by sending a message of thanks at comments@foxnewsinsider.com, yourcomments@foxnews.com, or leave a message at 1-888-369-4762.

By Kent Heckenlively, JD
Kent Heckenlively is the author of INOCULATED: How Science Lost its Soul in Autism, available on Amazon and at Barnes&Noble.com


16 thoughts on “Tucker Carlson is a Great American!  Allows Robert Kennedy, Jr. to Discuss Pharma Corruption and Vaccines!…”

  1. Done. Does this work? This is what I sent.
    I’ve got to applaud Fox, and Tucker Carlson for your courage to discuss a taboo subject of vaccines with RFK Jr. Finally a news station that has real news instead of a bunch bull shit or out right lies!
    Waconia MN

  2. You are at your computer.
    Search the web for “investigate the safety of vaccines”, using the main search engines google, yahoo, bing. Limit the search to yesterday, to exclude the rare results from years ago.

    Notice the furore, the vast amount of interest and attention found on those search engine reports. Not.

    Someone has this all sewn up.

  3. Big Farma is worse than any thing I’ve ever known. Harming Babies the world over. I’m 74 and can’t believe this has passed us all by without question. Gardisal damaging teenagers by the thousands what else??? The Hep B for new born causing cot death. How could this go unnoticed? Are people to scared to question?

  4. Thank You for allowing RKJ on to open a line of discussion about vaccine safety, science, and research…Yes, an open…civil…debate based on scientific facts is needed!

  5. I sent this:
    Thank You for a airing a subject that needs to be discussed. There are many scientific articles outlining the danger in vaccines. I grew up in the same era as Mr. Kennedy and received only 3 vaccines. Children today are far less healthy than my generation, with things like ADHD, OCD, asthma, social disorders, depression and suicide to name a few. Are vaccines really helping? We are losing natural immunity as a species. See the Truth About Vaccines, or Vaccines Revealed or Trace Amounts and still stay vaccines are safe the science is over.

    A concerned citizen and soon to be Grandmother who worries about the future of the human race.

  6. Dear Tucker, Vaccines are not considered “generally safe” as you describe them. They are considered “unavoidably unsafe”. More mumbo jumbo from the medical world.

    Also, doctors use fear to make their point with vaccines and other drugs, yet they are not the ones who are taking these things. If you say anything bad about a drug or vax, they say “come back when you have a medical degree” or “are YOU the doctor”? Well, let me just say this: I would tell that doctor, in no uncertain terms, that he is not the one using it and no one knows your body better than you do. If your body reacts to something, YOU’LL know it, not the damn doctor.

    And in the ER, they are still using basic, common items to bring back health quickly – like charcoal for overdoses and magnesium for those God-awful clot-busting shots for people who are in the process of a heart attack. They’ve got nuthin’ without going to the kitchen cupboard or the herb garden. Yet they brag.

    Pure arrogance in medicine these days. They need to be knocked down a peg or two.


    While preparing for the independent vaccine research studies to begin, let’s remember that right now state laws are compelling children to be vaccinated with the very vaccines you’re questioning for being toxic.

    It’s time to put a nationwide moratorium on “mandatory vaccination”, and make vaccines only available for parents who really want them.

    Also, let’s affirm that Vaccine Religious Exemptions are a 1st Amendment “Freedom of Religion” right that cannot be legislated away. States have had them for decades. It’s an unalienable right that cannot be taken away. Protect religious freedom and religious exemptions in every state.

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”


    There are literally THOUSANDS of diseases. Yet the only diseases we fear are the ones that a vaccine has been developed and marketed for.

    We only started fearing measles and mumps in the early 20th century—because the media told us to.


    The vaccine industry couldn’t make it easier to be anti-vaccine. They actually print all the reasons right there in vaccine manufacturer’s own package inserts—including flu shots!

    I especially appreciate the part where the vaccine manufacturers freely admit that they don’t study vaccines for carcinogenicity (cancer-causing) or mutagenicity (DNA mutation-causing). Who knew?!

    Or the part where they admit that the vaccinated child can still get the disease he or she was vaccinated against—including MEASLES, MUMPS, WHOOPING COUGH, FLU, ETC.—and shed it on to others. This is great stuff!

    It’s so easy to be anti-vaccine that I don’t understand how parents still choose to inject their children with this neurotoxic swill. The information’s right there.


    The CDC says the quantity of thimerosal (mercury) used in vaccines is perfectly safe. The EPA says that same dose (the actual quantity that’s injected into newborns) should be handled as toxic waste.

    Who do you believe?
    The EPA. They have no profit motive in their decision.

    The CDC is in the vaccine business. They own vaccine patents and make billions of dollars from their sale. The CDC cannot be trusted with your children’s lives.


    This video only takes 60 seconds to show how mercury in vaccines harms an infant’s brain… https://www.facebook.com/cognitivetruth/videos/652973178189287/

    There’s never a major childhood disease outbreak. It’s the same number of children who would normally get these mild ailments.

    What’s different is the media’s hysteria in reporting it—at the behest of big pharma, which includes all of the crooked legislators and governmental “health” agencies who are beholden to it. It’s all about vaccine sales and has nothing to do with public health.

    In fact, they never track these stories beyond the outbreak. Because if they did, you would see that 100% of these affected children recover fine in a week or so. That’s the real story—the part of the story they always omit.

    Now here’s real measles news…

  12. What we have today is “herd mentality”. Media scares the ignorant public and they all panic.

    Did you ever notice that when the news reports an outbreak, first—the vast majority of those affected were fully vaccinated, and second—they never follow through with the outcome of that event. Because if they did follow through, they would have to report that everyone fully recovered. And that doesn’t serve their purpose.

    The herd immunity theory was originally coined in 1933 by a researcher called Hedrich. He had been studying measles patterns in the US between 1900-1931 (years before any vaccine was ever invented for measles) and he observed that epidemics of the illness only occurred when less than 68% of children had developed a natural immunity to it.

    This was based upon the principle that children build their own immunity after suffering with or being exposed to the disease. So the herd immunity theory was, in fact, about natural disease processes and nothing to do with vaccination. If 68% of the population were allowed to build their own natural defenses, there would be no raging epidemic.

    Later on, vaccinologists adopted the phrase and increased the figure from 68% to 95% with no scientific justification as to why, and then stated that there had to be 95% vaccine coverage to achieve immunity.

    Essentially, they took Hedrich’s study and manipulated it to promote their vaccination programs.

    — American Journal of Epidemiology, May 1933 – Oxford University Press. “MONTHLY ESTIMATES OF THE CHILD POPULATION “SUSCEPTIBLE’ TO MEASLES, 1900-1931, BALTIMORE, MD, AW HEDRICH”

  13. Frankly, it seemed to me to be scripted so that Carlson was straightfaced when he should have been fainted on the floor… that babies vaxxed were TEN TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE IN THE NEXT TIME PERIOD…… but Carlson just casts a nasty shadow on RFK,Jr by saying why are you so DISCREDITED?….

    And after the knockout RFK revelation that the contents of the vax ampule was HAZARDOUS WASTE IF IT GOT INTO THE ROOM….. yet that trash was being injected into day old babies with nearly no immune defenses yet…. BUT instead of stunned disbelief that such cruelty is practiced, nope, Carlson innoculates the AUDIENCE REACTION each time there’s a knockout by pronouncing some bogus dark-magic explanation like raising ‘herd immunity’…….. sounds like the producers got the upper hand WITH HUMAN REACTIONS STIFLED..

  14. I love reading these comments. I love how many people are educated on this topic. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. Thank you Rfk jr and thank you Tucker. Having a vaccine injured child is so overwhelmingly sad. Please rise up! Stop big pharma/CDC from injuring children! Stop this madness!

  15. Why has this petition closed?Kent Heckenlively is a champion spokesperson for the little people.In other words people the government and pharmaceutical companies do not care about OR are afraid of perhaps?

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